Ghislaine Maxwell Denies Epstein Client List and Defends Trump and Clinton in Secret DOJ Tapes
- Analese Hartford
- Aug 25
- 3 min read
CLEVELAND 13 (WCTU) — Newly released audio recordings of Ghislaine Maxwell’s 2020 interview with the Trump Justice Department show the convicted sex trafficker repeatedly denying the existence of an Epstein “client list,” rejecting allegations involving prominent political figures, and casting doubt on the official account of Jeffrey Epstein’s death.
The two-day interview in Florida was conducted by then–Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who also previously served as Donald Trump’s personal lawyer. Blanche pressed Maxwell on whether Epstein maintained what has often been referred to as a “black book” of associates. “There is no list. We’ll start with that,” Maxwell said. Blanche underscored the point, stating, “There is no list, there is no client list, nothing like that,” with Maxwell replying, “There’s nothing.”
Maxwell, serving a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking and conspiracy, is a convicted perjurer who used “I don’t recall” or “I don’t remember” more than 100 times in the sessions. She consistently attempted to minimize her role in Epstein’s network, painting herself as an observer rather than a participant. Despite that posture, victims testified during her trial that she actively recruited and groomed them for Epstein’s abuse.
The newly surfaced recordings also suggest Maxwell had a clear incentive to distance Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Prince Andrew from Epstein. Maxwell made clear she hoped for leniency, possibly even a pardon, commutation, or some other reduction of her sentence. Given the high-profile deaths and intense scrutiny surrounding Epstein, analysts argue she may also have been motivated by fear of sharing his fate.
When asked directly about Epstein’s death, which was ruled a suicide in federal custody in 2019, Maxwell responded, “No, I don’t,” when questioned whether she believed the official account. She added that she did not believe “the story we’re being told.”
On Trump, she insisted she never witnessed anything inappropriate. “The president was never inappropriate with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects,” Maxwell said, later describing Trump as “very cordial and very kind.” She praised his “extraordinary achievement in becoming the president.”
Regarding Bill Clinton, Maxwell rejected allegations that he engaged in misconduct with Epstein. “He never, absolutely never went (to Epstein’s island), and I can be sure of that,” she said, emphasizing she was present when Clinton traveled with Epstein and never saw improper conduct. She further claimed Hillary Clinton had no relationship with Epstein.
Prince Andrew was another focus of questioning. Maxwell called allegations that he had sexual contact with one of Epstein’s victims “absolute rubbish,” adding that the claim was “mind-blowingly not conceivable.”
The consistency of Maxwell’s denials regarding the “client list” and the conduct of political figures raises questions about her motives. Legal experts note that Maxwell has every reason to protect powerful names while seeking possible sentence relief, while also safeguarding her own life. Her testimony may have been less about disclosing truth and more about navigating survival in a situation where both her freedom and safety remain in jeopardy.
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